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The second amend is not up for debate. it is not up for polls.
It is constitutional LAW. What part of this do you not understand?
its an amendment, it can also be amended. do u even understand the constitution?
I’m new at this tweeting thing, so bear with me. know this is off the subject, but . . I’m in New Hampshire and I want to find out how I can help those in Oklahoma. God bless them.
“A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed”
OK but a “well regulated militia” would also mean background checks, gun registration and licensing similar to cars, how’d you like that?
One thing that most people seem unaware of is the historical evidence that the second amendment was written to keep the southern states on board with the United States Constitution and with very idea of a “Bill of Rights”.
This was done to placate the powerful slave owning southern mega-farmers, who held the reins of political power in the southern states, by giving them the legal right to form “well regulated militias” to hunt down “their” runaway slaves.
These “slaver-barons” and their “genteel” southern “culture” were the decedents of the decadent and barbaric “slaver culture” of Barbados, Jamaica and the other “West Indies” islands.
These vile and decadent “Salvers” were in turn the decedents of the disgraced offspring of British and French nobility, sent to the West-Indies” to keep them away from public scrutiny and the inevitable stains to the honor of their “noble” family names.
Many of these horrid “slaver-barons” migrated to the American south and created the slave-labor based “plantation culture” and here we are 300 years later.
So there is your “Genteel” Southern “Plantation-Culture” and there is your “Sacred” Second Amendment right to bear arms.
I speak here as an American DAV/VFW who holds expert marksman badges on the AR14, AR15, and the service 45.
The unhinged “wing-nuts” who desire totally unregulated access to military weapons systems are not at all the “well regulated militias” that the founders had in mind when they created the second amendment to the Bill of Rights, and the Second Amendment is not in the least what the ARA and Wayne La Pierre purport it to be in their unpatriotic, lie-filled and seditious “War on Common sense”.
Well said, and God bless the truth tellers!
So if every word of the second amendment is mandatory, I don’t understand why the militia doesn’t have to drill every weekend? You would think that all gun owners would want to practice protecting their townships from foreign armies that might invade.
The part where it seems to be the only amendment that you all think is sacrosanct. The first amendment is regulated. You have freedom of speech but not anywhere and about anything. You have freedom of assembly, but have to get permits. The obsession with the second amendment has nothing to do with the constitution and everything to do with people not giving up their shiny fetshistic toys.
It needs to be.
The Second Amendment gives citizens the right to keep and bear arms. If your you’re wearing a three corner hat and carrying a musket carry away. If not, you need to realize that everything changes and the days when guns were necessary for survival have long since passed us by. We now have regulated militias. They’re called police departments. They have the right to keep us safe.
” 66.9% of all homicides in the United States were perpetrated using a firearm.[5] There were 52,447 deliberate and 23,237 accidental non-fatal gunshot injuries in the United States during the year 2000.[6] Two-thirds of all gun-related deaths in the United States are suicides. In 2010, there were 19,392 firearm-related suicide deaths, and 14,078 firearm-related homicide deaths in the United States.”
Anything you don’t understand about that?
What part of ‘well regulated’ don’t you understand?
Just like with any right, there are certain limitations and responsibilities that go along with them. You can’t legislate common sense but you can limit one’s right to yell fire in a crowded theater, own a machine gun or buy a gun if you fall into certain categories. These gun nuts are letting their children kill their little brothers and sisters, all in the name of gun rights. How about the right not to be shot?
You apparently don’t understand the amendment at all. The NRA are the ones trying to change it. It was never meant as an individual liberty. No law article or Supreme Court decision ever claimed it was until the 1960s. Now the gun lobby is trying to change that. It was a law for arming militias, at the insistence of the slave states.
Guns are dangerous; they kill people. I went deer hunting when I was young and killed a deer; never again. I love golf so I understand passions people have for their avocations. But the worst thing that ever happened to me in golf was a broken windshield (why did it have to be a Mercedes?) so a very bad mistake with a golf ball is a $600 windshield. I don’t need to tell you what a bad mistake can do with a gun. Passions make people a little crazy – golf certainly does for me, but if the passion is guns, we’re setting up a condition that can have a horrible end. Some will say that guns in the hands of responsible people is an OK thing – while not a fan of Dick Cheney, I’d none-the-less put him in the so-called ‘responsible’ category – and he managed to shoot his friend in the face. So, maybe ‘responsible’ doesn’t make the cut. Guns are dangerous. If we eliminate guns, we eliminate: What? Yes, we eliminate danger. But those who have to have their guns offer their arguments about why they are, what? Necessary! It’s like chocolate cake, or the second martini, or a big bag of potato chips to go with the beer (one of my problems), those things are not necessities, they’re desires. I desire a second martini, you desire to own an assault rifle. I do my best to avoid that second martini because I know it’s not good for me and I would argue with any fellow martini lover who would suggest otherwise. In that department I put prudence ahead of my desire, and, reluctantly, I’m better off because of it.
Better get rid of your cars too – how many lives lost to those ‘dangerous’ items every year? Get rid of yours and start riding the bus!
You’re an idiot Stu. A car’s main purpose is to get someone from point A to point B. It was not designed to kill people. A gun’s sole purpose, however, is to maim and/or kill. It has no other purpose. Btw…people get killed riding buses too.
Anyone’s, Everyone’s right to life supersedes your right to bear arms. You’re just going to have to live with this fact as the rest of us will live with your preternatural fears.
Actually… the second amendment isn’t up for debate. What’s up for debate is what in means in modern society, because we don’t have state militias anymore and the specific issues the second amendment was meant to address are no longer relevant.
Three things allow the Second Amendment to be up for debate: (1) Article Three, Section Two, (2) Article Five, and (3) the First Amendment, all of the U.S. Constitution.
Nothing is ineligible for debate and your interpretation does pass the smell test.
Any part of the Constitution can be amended. There was a amendment that enacted prohibition and another amendment that cancelled that amendment. The Constitution is a LIVING document which the Founders knew would have to be adjuested over time. There is no Constitutional barrier to the repeal of the Second Amendment.
I think you might be over selling yourself. Using logic, I imagine by your statement, you prize one amendment as to supercede the others in the constitution. ‘The pursuit of happiness” freedom of religion,press, no law passing to repress or represent one religion Over another. seperation of church and state, operating under a ‘well regulated’ oh I know you hate that half of the sentence! The right to convene, petition and elect your government. The right to a speedy trial. Judicial limits, abolition of slavery, women having equal rights. .
I bet if you were to list in order of importance. Of which was the most important amendment, to the least important. Your right to bear arms, (under the terms of a well regulated militia) it would drop to the bottom three. Bottom three. Not a sermon, just a thought.
There are already restrictions on the 2nd Amendment. You cannot, for example, own a lot of military hardware (e.g. fighters, helicopters, missiles, bombs, etc), convicted felons cannot own firearms, etc.
We already do background checks on people who buy firearms through licensed dealers, and it hasn’t led to “guns being taken away”. Expanding the background checks to any gun sale helps keep guns out of the hands of felons, the mentally ill, people on the terrorist watch list, etc. Unless you’re on one of those lists, it won’t bother you.
I am a retired military person and have used many military weapons. I know what an AR-25 is and contrary to some, it is a military style assault weapon. I think background checks and a limit on how many bullets a magazine can hold is critical for the safety of our people and especially our children. If these gundamentalists want unfettered access then they need to look in the mirror if, God forbid, another mass shooting happensand chldren are killed, to see what they could posssibley prevented.
I should have said AR-15. AR-25 was a typo.
They need to regulate backgrounds checks to check guns from the mentally ill, children, people who are constantly stoned (Colorado, California, Washington, Oregon), people with illnesses that keep them from obtaining a Driving License (epillepsy), but do not hinder them from obtaining a firearm.
If you’re going to include the stoners, you must also include alcoholics and prescription drug abusers. There isn’t any difference in diminished capacity.
It was reported that Dick Cheney had been drinking before shooting his friend in the face. Not only do guns cause irreparable harm, they appear to go well with a beer or two.
Hey! leave the stoners alone.
Since Chris Christie has weight issues and the taxpayers footing the bill. Why fill the same about putting people to back work. So it took the man he talk against to help out with Sandy ain’t that some em.
•More important for leaders to be respected than to be loved. (Aug 2012)
•Interest in politics started at age 14 in Junior High School. (Jun 2012)
•1995: Unapologetic about taking on the establishment. (Jun 2012)
•Lifelong struggle with weight, despite repeated efforts. (Jun 2012)
•Occupy Movement and Tea Party agree on anger at government. (Jun 2012)
•The New Jersey Comeback: stop blaming; start building. (Jan 2012)
•Catholicism informs who I am; but not my political decisions. (Jun 2011)
•Spent beyond government travel allowance as US Attorney. (Oct 2009)
•Children attend parochial school. (Jul 2009)
By the Grace of God I am again elected and God has instructed me to bring more austerity to the country. Mark
What are you talking about? Are you saying that you converse with God and he answers you and has given you a mandate to bring austerity to the country. Come on, man. That con hasn’t worked for a long time. Now if you’re not just trying to make some money, you need to seek help, let your doctor know you’ve been hearing voices.
And you might also try bringing austerity to yourself and see how it works for you.
Good luck.
Darrell Isa…need to get his facts right including Mr. Hicks need stop the games if the Republicans Shenanigans.
Dispute still rages in the US about exactly what happened in Benghazi, Libya on 11 September, and who knew what when. After initially saying the attack may have been spontaneous, US authorities now say it was a pre-planned strike.
Libyan authorities have said militants probably used an anti-US protest as cover for the attack, and may have had help from inside the country’s security services.
Here is the timeline of events that US officials believe led to the death of US ambassador Christopher Stevens, his state department colleague Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.
10 p.m: Attackers open fire at the consulate, which has a main building and a smaller annex.
10.15 p.m: The assailants gain entry to the complex and the main building is engulfed in flames.
Many of those trapped inside escape but Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith and a regional security guard remain. The security guard manages to escape and returns shortly afterwards with others to try to rescue Mr. Stevens and Mr. Smith. They found Mr. Smith dead and pull him from the building, but no sign of Mr. Stevens. They are driven from the building by thick black smoke, fire and gunfire.
10.45 p.m: Security staff tries to retake the main building but come under heavy fire and retreat.
11.20 p.m: A second attempt to retake the main building is successful. Fighting moves to the annexed.
Midnight: Fighting at the annexed – reported to last about two hours – results in the deaths of two more Americans, later named by US authorities as former Navy Seals whose job was to protect the other staff.
1.15 a.m: Mr. Stevens arrives at a nearby hospital – it is not known who took him. A doctor there has told the BBC that he spent an hour trying to revive him, but that Mr. Stevens died from smoke inhalation.
2.30 a.m: Security forces regain control of the annexed.
“Children are taught to respect grown folk…such as”, I bet not here ya sassy so and so, hush your mouth go play, answer their questions…that’s grown man or grown woman do what they tell ya etc. “But they don’t say if some grown person ever group tell me and listen to your child when trying to tell about these people because you can’t trust some folks. Parent’s…stop lying to children about the realities of life, check out who they hang out with…demand answer of their whereabouts and mostly sit down talk to your children.
On May 23, 2012 interview of Romney with Mark Halperin in Time magazine.
“Halperin: Why not in the first year, if you’re elected — why not in 2013, go all the way and propose the kind of budget with spending restraints in needed programs, that you’d like to see after four years in office? Why not do it more quickly?
Romney: Well because, if you take a trillion dollars for instance, out of the first year of the federal budget, that would shrink GDP over 5%. That is by definition throwing us into recession or depression. So I’m not going to do that, of course.”
So, if this congress, in the quest of self service, shouts wolf for the hundred and umpteenth time while continuing to legislate for the 1% under cover of such loud protestations; will anyone but Fox viewers, really take notice?
As for me I just change channels when the pundits begin a drunken binge on this useless pile of crap, waisting my time while losing its credibility..
I get the sick feeling that I need to change my subscription from behind the times to day old news.
Regarding Chris Matthews contention that dumping 100 emails on us just before filing time doesn’t give us time to respond;what? Talk about artificial timelines, you take as long as it takes to read and analyze the documents and then you report on them when you are ready. Gut reaction reporting and speculation is the reason I switched(this week)from CNN to MSNBC. I really like your show Chris (aside from wishing you would calm down a bit so that you don’t bust a blood vessel) but please remember that reporting first is not the same as getting to the heart of the story.
Also as an aside, does anyone in press realize how hilarious it is is to see the press getting outraged about the AP issue? Surely the republicans must be smirking at the piling on Obama about this issue making you brothers in Arms with the gop!
I am very puzzled that when the IRS investigate the Tea Party it is a crime, however when they investigated the NAACP I did not hear this type of outrage. MSNBC I lost my belief in you, why you are not bringing the NAACP story to the news. Please let the people know that the IRS investigates everyone.
Why is the Tea Party asking for 501 C status instead of 527? Are they not a politico party. What is the real subtrafuge to our democratic system? If you lie to the IRS you get investigated like always.
They should ask how many so called Rabi’s who were tax excempt got audited….probably none because half the IRS members are Jewish…like Mr. MILLER
TW obviously you are an ass and and idiot The question is why broadcast that fact?
They should have the citizes of the ununited states ask the Questions…. And perhaps have some Tea Party Members and Green Party members ask some questions
People have to do a background check; or something similar before you can go on the plane. Why can’t the same thing be done for those who want to own guns?
Background checks shouldn’t bother you; unless you got something to hide. And don’t talk about privacy please!
By disagreeing with enhanced background checks and allowing convicted felons to buy firearms at gun shows the way to protect the second ammendment?
I keep hearing about homes, schools, hospital, etc being “decimated”. That is NOT the word to describe total destruction………..
decimate: A frequently misused word.
Decimate literally means to reduce something by a tenth, but many people use it instead to mean “totally destroy.” The word “obliterate” would be a better choice than “decimate.”
Decimate comes from the root “deci-” which can be found in other words involving ten, “decimal” for example.
When I decimated the cookies I ate one of the ten-cookie batch.
Chris Matthews and his panel have lost it. President Obama cannot go around firing civil servants based on reports of mid-level misconduct at an agency. He could have fired appointed people, but you don’t just go firing people based on a report. Agency heads have the right to investigate and determine what happened and who is really to blame. Then the consequences can be handed out fairly. Firing people for political reasons is as much BS as the targeting of people in the first place.
Amazing how people who quote the Constitution, The Bill of Rights and The Bible only select portions of text that supports their ideas. These documents are to viewed in their entirety so that not only are YOUR rights respected but you see and accept responsibility for respecting OTHER’S rights!
I can believe C B S owns most of the right wing talk radio shows !!!!! How do we not hold them accountable !!! For the hate and mis information that these shows contribute to the public !!!!